Concerns about proposed flight paths in and out of Manston when (if) it reopens for air freight
Development consent was finally granted in July, by the government, for a freight air cargo hub at Manston. The Thanet site is owned by RiverOak Strategic Partners (RSP) which now has to complete the various stages of the Civil Aviation Authority CAP 1616 process for airspace change. RiverOak is currently on ‘stage 2’, known as the develop and access gateway. But CARMA, the Campaign Against the Reopening of Manston Airport, has questioned the lack of transparency of the process so far. They have drawn particular focus on the planned flight paths, claiming 30 towns and villages will be impacted. There are illustrations of some proposed flight paths, arrivals and departures, in the RSP documents. These show many areas of east Kent being overflown, for the first time. CARMA is very concerned that these routes have been drawn up, without information for, or consultation with, the public. Relevant community representatives have not been being properly informed. At the best of times, the CAA flight path alteration process is difficult for laypeople to understand, with “CAP1616 process” and “design options” and “airspace design principles” and “technical and operational interdependencies” among other bits of jargon, which are not written in “plain English.”
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Thanet: Full story behind those ‘secret’ proposed Manston Airport flight paths
Development consent was finally granted last month for a freight air cargo hub by the Secretary of State for Transport
Manston Airport is on course to reopen as a £330 million freight air cargo hub.
The Thanet site is owned by RiverOak Strategic Partners (RSP), who last month received development consent from the Secretary of State for Transport.
For the project to go ahead, RiverOak must complete the seven stages (14 steps) of the Civil Aviation Authority CAP 1616 process for airspace change.
RiverOak is currently on ‘stage 2’, known as the develop and access gateway.
But CARMA, the Campaign Against the Reopening of Manston Airport, has questioned the “secrecy” and transparency of the process so far. http://thecarma.co.uk/
They have drawn particular focus on the planned flight paths, claiming 30 towns and villages will be impacted.
The proposals for the departures and arrivals from the airport have been illustrated in RiverOak’s options development document, which can be viewed here.
Within it, RiverOak lays out several planned freight routes which could fly over east Kent.
In a petition to the Civil Aviation Authority, CARMA said: “So far these consultations have been discussed and developed behind closed doors and questions have been raised asking if the relevant communities and their representatives have been properly informed and consulted.”
This was echoed by Ramsgate councillor David Green, who said: “The consultations I have been to have been sparsely attended by councillors and local representatives from east Kent.
“You have to ask if the relevant community representatives are being properly informed.”
However, in response to this, RiverOak has said they are following the Civil Aviation Authority Process by the book and highlighted public and stakeholder consultation is carried out extensively in ‘stage 3’.
A spokesman said: “We are working methodically through the process and we are currently at step 2A. The level of public and stakeholder consultation is rightly both extensive and detailed, but is not carried out until step 3.
“Work is currently underway on step 2A (options development).
“At this stage of the airspace change (CAP1616) process we are seeking feedback for our design options, from air navigation service providers at neighbouring airports, the wider aviation community and selected representatives of local communities such as members of local authorities, parish councils and MPs representing constituencies in the surrounding area to ensure any critical technical and operational interdependencies have been considered.
“When the design options are produced based upon the airspace design principles, a comprehensive public consultation will take place during stage 3 as a key part of the airspace change process where we will take into account the wider views of residents, businesses, communities, the public and other stakeholders.”
KentLive has approached RSP for clarity on exactly which community representatives were reached out to for feedback on their design options.
https://www.kentlive.news/news/kent-news/thanet-full-story-behind-those-4396339
Claims of ‘secret’ flight paths in and out of Manston when it reopens denied by airport boss
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By Marijke Hall mhall@thekmgroup.co.uk
7th August 2020
Claims of secret flight paths in and out of Manston when the airport reopens have been denied by bosses who insist they have no say over the routes.
Director of RiverOak Strategic Partnership (RSP) Tony Freudmann, who last month won the backing of the government to relaunch the site as a freight cargo hub in 2023 in Thanet, says it “can’t just put aeroplanes in the sky” and the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) makes the final decision.
He insists the only thing he is pushing for is that more flights come in over Herne Bay than Ramsgate, due to the latter being closer to the runway and therefore more likely to be disturbed by noise.
“We’ve had two focus groups with representatives from councils in east Kent, we’ve suggested some flight paths and these will be sent in a report to the CAA,” he said.
“All we do is make proposals.
“The CAA makes the final decision – it wants flights that are safe, as safe to the environment as possible and cause as little disturbance through noise as possible.”
His comments come in response to a campaign calling for transparency over where the flight paths will be.
Critics claim some 30 locations in east Kent will be affected by those proposed, including Thanet towns and villages, Herne Bay, Beltinge, Swalecliffe, Folkestone, and villages across the area such as Ash, Wingham, Challock, Fordwich and Chillenden.
There are also fears that one proposal for a holding pattern – when an aeroplane can’t immediately land and has to circle in the sky – will be over Faversham.
Ramsgate town councillor Cllr David Green is backing a petition by pressure group CARMA (Campaign Against the Reopening of Manston Airport) asking the CAA to be transparent about the “secret” routes.
He says he is also “not convinced” RSP is being open about the paths with all the relevant authorities.
“The developers claim these new routes have been shared with key stakeholders who can ‘offer early views on behalf of their local communities, including elected community representatives’,” he said.
“The consultations I have been to have been sparsely attended by councillors and local representatives from east Kent. There were only half a dozen in the last one.
“You have to ask if the relevant community representatives are being properly informed.”
He says he has written to all parish councils asking if they have been contacted regarding the proposed flight paths.
But Mr Freudmann says there hasn’t been a consultation, but two focus group sessions, involving local representatives.
“There will be consultations, but not yet,” he said.
‘You can’t just put an aeroplane in the air and fly where you like’ – Tony Freudmann
“At the moment there is no air space allocated, because when Manston was closed in 2014, the then-owners surrendered the air space.
“So we have applied to the CAA for Manston to have its own air space.
“We have to go through a process which is highly regulated, whereby we go through focus groups in which we suggest possible flight paths to the local community and ask them for their response and then go through a consultation process – which hasn’t started yet.
“We don’t set the flight paths, the CAA sets them.
“You can’t just put an aeroplane in the air and fly where you like.”
He says holding patterns will likely be over the sea, except for quieter light aircraft which would potentially be over land.
Mr Freudmann says the criteria they are working with is for as many arrivals and departures as possible to be over Herne Bay, at the eastern end of the runway.
“Ramsgate is closer to the runway than Herne Bay which means that aircraft landing over Ramsgate or taking off are lower and therefore noisier than they are over Herne Bay, because they’re higher in the sky over Herne Bay.
“So what we’ve been trying to do is ensure that as many arrivals and departures are over Herne Bay and not over Ramsgate.
“Lets say there are six movements an hour, three arrivals and three departures, what we hope to achieve is of those six arrivals, at least four or even five will be in the direction of Herne Bay.”
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/thanet/news/row-over-secret-flight-paths-to-and-from-airport-231707/
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